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I think the forum ate my post! I'm reposting.

I am saddened to see this thread, but am not surprised after everything I’ve heard over the past year. I don't visit here often and never thought I would post again. I'm not a message board fan and I am under the impression that the admin here are not fond of schools in general.

I am affiliated with a makeup school, and I have personally met with a few former students from Dawn til Dusk. Some are seeking to become better educated. By the time they are properly educated I think most figure out just how lacking their education was at Dawn til Dusk. This is the feedback I have received.

I've heard stories of double charging on credit cards, substituted instructors with recent new grads, last minute cancelled classes, and a strong belief that Dawn didn’t have a clue as to what she was doing. When seeking jobs, they found they were ill-prepared for this tough business. When they tried to get promises fulfilled from Dawn or her administrator husband, they were harassed and threatened, or offered product to make them go away.

Being part of a school, I would never encourage anyone to post on a message board about their experiences with a school. In this rare case I fully support these former students choice to do so. I don't want to sound self serving so I'm not going to mention my school affiliation but I can tell you that not all schools are like this and that the verbal abuse, threats and the continual family deaths or health issues to avoid students I have heard about for the past year is not something you will find in other schools. Is it fraud? I can't say for sure but if not there is some very shoddy book keeping going on and errors that other schools just dont make on a regular basis. Some of the things I have viewed are unethical to say the least.

When the stories started circulating I did a little research and this wasnt hard because the NY area used to be my stomping ground. I’ve met the actual makeup department head of the Sally Jessy Raphael show, I used to work with some of the same crew, as a matter of fact, the Department head was nominated for an Emmy one of the years Dawn claims to have been the head artist there, so what does one make of that? I also contacted the Maury show to verify Dawn’s employment there. She may have been a day player, but has never worked on Maury himself from what I understand. The first time I called, they didn’t even remember Dawn. If students are taken in based on lies and I believe they are, where does this leave the students? I have heard though never seen with my own eyes that their school website used to have stolen photos, is this just rumor? lets hope so, maybe someone here can enlighten me about that.

I happen to be talking to one of these former students a couple of weeks ago about this very subject. She was assisting me on a commercial. She told me that she met with a couple other former students from her class at Dawn til Dusk, and they all had similar issues. They decided to talk to an attorney to see what could be done. She asked me if I could help her find other former students. They have set up an email account for students to contact them to see if they are interested in joining in or just to help with gathering information. The email is dtdmakeup@yahoo.com. Right now, I think there are 8 to 10 students involved in this case. I put out the word to others I knew (whose contact info I still had) and now I share this with you.

She stressed keeping track of harrassing phone calls and emails, write the time and date down, this is all information the attorney wants. Get the calls on tape if you can, it's best not to answer the phone so you can get everything said on tape. This will help the case, according to what her attorney told her. Even if you didn't get harassed, document everything that did happen, and when.

I know I shouldn't get involved, given my position in this industry. But I really care about our students and I hate to see anyone get hurt.

I understand, I'm emailing you now. Thanks Mary!