I have a friend who does make up. I had asked her to assist me on a job with one of my most important clients (at the time) She recently launched her new
website, and I noticed that she listed my client (the job where she assisted me) as one her clients. She actually wrote "My clients include x..." and
named my client as her first client. When I questioned her about it, she became defensive and angry. I know I sound petty, but this has ruffled my feathers. I
have assisted several artists, and I would never list a job where I assisted them as my client. I would love to hear some of your thoughts...
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Posts: 779 04/09/09 16:05:52
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She's out of line. If she has never been key artist for said client, it is NOT hers to list.
Burning bridges.... not smart, especially in this economy. Remind her of that. |
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Posts: 917 04/09/09 16:08:08
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Susan, Bummer girl, but this happens all the time. Resume padders abound. It's been discussed here too and if I remember it correctly, people were on both
sides of the argument. She obviously doesn't understand or care about protocol. Resume padders only get away with it for so long and real people are not
fooled by it. I am amazed how MANY artists have a resume that says one thing, but a book that contradicts it and doesn't correlate said client list at all.
Since approaching her did not work, let it rest. You said that she became defensive and angry, but did she give you an explanation as to why she did it?? You
have the proof that you need, (call sheets, the client relationship and the keying check to prove it). Needless to say, you are justified in being wrong, and
also justified in never asking her to work with you on something again... -K
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Posts: 4047 04/09/09 16:21:38
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ITA with Kittypink. How many times have I seen someone's portfolio only to look at their resume and be
 because it bears NO resemblance to anything that's in their book? I mean I don't
know who folks think they're fooling with that, but in my experience they aren't.
With the economy being what it is, AND with so many folks wanting to be MUAs and feeling entitled to be the next Rachel Goodwin after two minutes in the field, I think it's really important to screen assistants to the fullest extent possible. I'll only take someone on a big job if I've worked with them on a little one or if they come with a strong referral. Otherwise, I like to work with folks a few times as an intern so I can see what I'm dealing with. If you're groovy, you'll reap the benefits. If you're not, you won't and you won't have an opp to burn me. (I've also had assistants get a little bit of shine and decide they don't need to return my emails/phone calls anymore. Unprofesh deluxe. I hope these folks realize I was emailing about assist jobs paying $300-$500/day that they ignored me on). Point being - folks are crazy. Gotta watch your back. Another thing I've started doing is thanking assistants on my well optimized and visited Blog. 1) I really do appreciate my great assistants and I want folks to know how hard they rock. 2) if someone I don't know too well is assisting me and they think they're going to pull a stunt, they can just think again. 
Sorry this happened to you girlie 
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Posts: 443 04/09/09 16:38:56
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Ladies, thank you so much for your support! I am still pissed off, but I now know better when hiring an assistant...BTW great idea Tania...I will have to check
out your blog!
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Posts: 2361 04/09/09 20:17:04
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IMO if she really wanted to list the client, she should have worded it something like
Assistant to MUA Paris03 for client ABC but I agree..someone like that, I would not invite to assist again..because next thing you know, she's passing out her business cards to your clients without your consent or knowledge and possibly undercutting your rate just to get the client on board. sad but true..especially in this economy
olgabeauti@cox.net
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Posts: 62 04/09/09 20:26:57
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How does she have the nerve to get defensive and angry? Susan, let her know, and not nicely
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Posts: 614 04/10/09 08:20:36
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I have a question for everyone...
I worked on a job with a well known actor recently as the hair & make-up artist. The wardrobe stylist that was booked is normally a hair & make-up artist. The shot that was printed from the job was the actor's own pants with no shirt on. Recently I was on her web site (where she advertises her hair & make-up) and saw the shot from this job. She WAS on the job, although the shot shows none of her wardrobing work, he was barefooted wearing no shirt & his own pants, and it appears now as though she did the grooming of his hair & make-up. What would your reaction be? I am friendly with this other artist, but I am also a bit bent out of shape. Thanks! Heather |
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Posts: 781 04/10/09 09:37:19
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MkUpNHair wrote: Just as in makeup/hair, sometimes doing nothing is the pro decision. If I see that the models hair is great as is for the job I'm doing, I will leave it as is and take the credit the same as if I'd spent a hour styling it. This is part of being a pro, knowing when to leave well enough alone. As a stylist, she may have made the decision to keep him in his own pants and suggested he go bare chested/barefoot but she most likely still pulled wardrobe so she deserves to put it on her site. |
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Posts: 4049 04/10/09 10:21:12
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yeah, I mean she was a booked artist so of course she should use it to show she was on the job. She should, however, make it clear as to what she did. IF she
markets herself at all three things, she should always delineate what she did on a particular job. I always mark a picture as
"makeup only" or "men's grooming only" or whatever the case may be so as for there to be no confusion.
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Posts: 4674 04/10/09 17:34:45
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she got defensive because she knew she wasn't right...very short sided of her...and sorry this happened to you!
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Posts: 3341 04/10/09 18:46:01
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agreed. I only think it's acceptable if you list it on your resume as "xxclient - assistant hair/makeup"
If she's only using "xxclient" then it's unacceptable
Ashley
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Posts: 233 04/11/09 21:23:46
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Paris, sorry that happened to you. It's definitely a way to burn bridges.
I've listed assisting gigs on my resume, but was very specific that I was an assistant. I wrote something like: "assisted makeup artist XXXon XXX campaign" so there's no mistaking what was my role. |
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Posts: 4892 04/18/09 22:55:11
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I think the person that books the job should get the credit, regardless of what the other person did.... HOWEVER, I know people are hungry and they are going
to grab at what ever credits they can, in the end it probably doesn't matter... I'm not sure how much credit people give resumes anymore..
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Posts: 37 04/30/09 15:17:14 |
Paris
I say "pick your battles" karma comes around Your client truly appreciates what you do for them and since you are the more experienced artist and this was her "break" she will always be "indebted" to you for her "big shot" and you can certainly remind her of indebtedness everytime you see her. Eventually she will tire of her indebtedness and remove the reminder from her website. Heather Pick your battles next time you're around her just keep smiling quietly because you know the truth. Besides, I still use the Mask photo. Might have anothet HHN type event coming around. I'll keep you in mind. Hong Kong |
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how things work in this industry. 
She needs to remove that or its gonna bite her in the ass
later....though I doubt she'll be in this career long enough to deal with that.
